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| Spectrum Observer |
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Obesity, defined by 35 lbs (BMI 25) or more over healthy weight, linked to mothers of children with Autism. Interesting study. Doesn't surprise me. Promising to think that an intervention as simple as maintaining a healthy weight can prevent such a tragic outcome for children. http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/09/11061081-obese-moms-may-be-more-likely-to-have-autistic-child-study-suggests?lite |
| Mr. Obvious |
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I saw this study, I think caution is the word here. Correlation is not causation. Although there are certainly benefits from maintaining a healthy body weight. |
| av1 |
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Also, several different types of vaccinations can cause autism. |
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Stop trolling. You know this isn't true.
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| av1 |
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It is true. And the burning of fossil fuels by evil humans is destroying the planet. That's just the way it is. |
| Electric Youth |
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Vaccines cause autism!!!! Oh, the humanity ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo |
| Spectrum Observer |
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Certainly more research is needed to confirm the association suggested by the linked article, but wow, I haven't seen such promising information related to the prevention of Autism in quite some time. The relationship between inflammatory proteins and brain development has been looked at from other angles for a long time, particularly in Alzheimers research, so I found this study not surprising, and as I said, very promising as the identification rate for children diagnosed with Autism continues to rise. |
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I'm not going to click on your garbage link, troll. |
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I feel bad for parents of children with autism every time I hear someone repeat this urban legend. There is no documentation for the connection. Autism begins to appear at the time that vaccinations are given so parents mistake correlation to causation. Fact is that currently no one knows what causes autism. And parents of children with autism desperately want to know how it can be prevented and treated. |
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Yeah, but it was the mercury in the vaccines that made the mothers obese. |
| Electric Youth |
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actually d-bag, it is a very well done visual by Penn and Teller showing that "even if" vaccines caused autism, the benefit of vaccination still vastly outweighs the risks of not vaccinating your children. In effect, they use comedy to show crazy overzealous conspiracy driven parents that by not vaccinating their children to "save them from Autism" that they are, in fact doing much more harm to them by leaving them exposed to many infectious diseases which can kill their child. How about you recognize some sarcasm when you trip over it.
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Not surprised. My cousin is autistic. His mother is an obese cow. |
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I'm not sure that I'd be using Penn and Teller to try to "educate" people about health-related topics. Nice try. |
| Sir Lance-alot |
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Yes, it is interesting, and having an obese mom during pregnancy might be one of the many triggers of autism (there are likely several different reasons). However, I am sure we all know super healthy, type A, spends-their-entire-life-in-spandex-showing-off-that-booty (and going to or coming from yoga and or pilates) yuppie moms with kids with autism or along that spectrum. So clearly obesity is not the only, or even close to being the main, cause of autism. Furthermore, they recently identified several genes related to autism. I also believe paternal age is somewhat related. Obesity could be a marker for other underlying reasons. Obese moms might also share several other characteristics: being poorer which could lead to lack of medical care, lacking in certain nutrients in their diet, drinking while pregnant, being sedentary, etc, etc Obesity, per se, might not be the reason. |
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You are probably right, generally, but this time Penn and Teller were better resources than the medical Dr that made the vaccination claim in the first place. Anyway, wasn't Jenn McCarthy that went a huge PR campaign against childhood vaccinations because of the alleged link? Penn and Teller was just 'balancing out' the celebrity expertise of the debate. |
| Spectrum Observer |
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True, there are numerous causal factors that likely come into play with this disorder, but few are as controllable in a first time pregnancy (i.e., no prior genetic counseling) than weight gain. |
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Speaking as a mom of an autistic child, I was 125 lbs. before the pregnancy, so obesity wasn't a contributing factor. The one thing that has risen in the past 10-20 years along with autism diagnoses is the number of births via c-section (around 30% in this country). Some studies have found an increase in autism with c-section and/or difficult deliveries. I just don't think it is a coincidence considering the increased numbers of induced pregnancies and planned c-sections. Of course, more kids are diagnosed today with a broader spectrum in place. Thirty years ago, many of these kids would not have been diagnosed with autism. So the actual increase in the percentage of kids born today with autism may be a little fuzzy. |
| Mr. Obvious |
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Yes, I believe that the obesity may be a marker for something else. However quite a few studies have shown that there is no link between family income and autism (there is a link after birth as resources are devoted to caring for the special needs child). |
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I'd be curious to see some evidence of the above statement related to c-sections independent of other complications. My guess is that the Autism connection (if there really is one) is more likely related to the particular complication than to the c-section itself. Do you have a link to some reliable research? And actually, outside of the deliveries with true complications that require cesarean delivery, fewer and fewer docs are willing to cater to the wims of pregnant women in regard to elective c-sections and scheduled inductions. Over the last decade more hospitals across the country have been re-writing protocol/policy for these procedures to insure that babies have adequate time in utero for full development. |
| Jefe in the CO |
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I'd be curious to see some evidence related to the direct, positive correlation between vaccination schedules/autism rates for children born during the 1960’s and their respective schedules/rates of children born in the past 10 years. Of course no one in their right mind would ever utter such blasphemy and they would deserve to be castigated and shouted down before any such evaluation could be done or published. This whole autism discussion has taken on the “elephant in the room” type debate where everyone muses on possible links; obesity of mother, age of father, C-Section, proteins, Moon sign – but God forbid anyone mention the elephant sitting right next to us all. |
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