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Why is it that the Washington women are constantly in the national game but the men are lagging way behind? Are they actually decent and overlooked by the women and the conference? How is Coach Metcalf treating these guys? |
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He'll let the guys hold the gals' warmups at some of the meets. |
| Roberto (Robby) Hauger |
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18 v 12.5 scholarships. More distance runner bang for your scholarship bucks with women. Notice that except for the javelin and one pole vaulter, the UW women's track team isn't that good beyond the distance runners. |
| Junk Master |
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Husky juice for everyone! |
| A guy that knows |
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Metcalf actually has a good training program for both the men and women. The problem is that the men don't do what is written. The men grind each other into the ground and Metcalf doesn't stop them. There have been workouts that were supposed to be tempo runs at 5:10 pace and the guys come through in 4:55 and Metcalf encourages them to compete with each other. I won't name any names, but there is quite a few of the upperclassmen who try to make every single run sub 6 pace. The women run their prescribed paces and work as a pack in workouts to keep things under control and that is why they aren't burned out. If you look at the talent that UW gets every year on the men's side, there is no reason they should suck like they do. That being said, Metcalf has the talented guys and the program on paper to have a top level team just like the women, but until he gets the guys in check and gets them to save it for race day, they will continue to run below their potential. |
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Don't even get me started. |
| The Angel of Death |
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"UW is where good runners go to die." |
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This is no different than 20 years ago when I was running there and Greg was an athlete. The above paragraphs nearly exactly describe the situation, right down to the paces quoted. Greg, wtf? Stop encouraging guys to blow themselves up in training. Why repeat the mistakes of Mike Johnson? |
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To be fair, there are a couple of the freshmen that have really good heads on their shoulders and are committed to being told they aren't trying in practice and they have been running really well. If this trend continues, look for Tyler King and Meron Simon to bring UW distance running up to where it should be. |
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a crew of west coast alpha dogs that seem to think they're going to be winning nats by living fast and racing each other when it doesn't matter. |
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They had that one guy break 4 last year, but he seems too busy riding around in submarines to run fast. |
| Montlake Mike |
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This is no different than 20 years ago when I was running there and Greg was an athlete. The above paragraphs nearly exactly describe the situation, right down to the paces quoted. Greg, wtf? Stop encouraging guys to blow themselves up in training. Why repeat the mistakes of Mike Johnson?[/quote] They generally average around 70mpw, but most all of it is well under 6:00 pace on a daily basis. |
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Most of it faster than 6 min pace? What kind of race times are these guys running? Sounds like he should have a team full of 23:xx and low 24:xx 8k runners |
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Uh, he IS a Mike Johnson disciple. That WAS after all, his college coach who helped make him national class. It is a fine balance between red-lining SOMETIMES, and staying in control and relaxed at others. The athletes have to listen and learn this for themselves or take their chances. |
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Uh, he IS a Mike Johnson disciple. [/quote] Wow - I didn't know that Mike Johnson had ANY disciples ! |
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If you actually do a little research and look at what some of these guys have run so far, than you would realize some of their team has done some amazing stuff. James Cameron ran a sub 4 mile! Joey Bywater ran 4:00 in the mile! And the most impressive may actually be the 4:04 from Meron Simon, THE FRESHMAN!!! He is forsure in the top 5 to 10 freshmen in the country with a time like that. Now lets just see what they can do with him. |
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What mistakes did Mike Johnson do? It seems his run at UW was pretty successful. Metcalf seems to be pretty successful. Not all schools have great men and woman teams. |
| Montlake Mike |
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They need to score at the NCAA championships. In the end, that is the ultimate measure of success. |
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Montlake Mike, I agree with you 100%. They need to score at the NCAA championships where it actually matters. But with the talent they have, I can see it in the near future. |
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Sounds about right. It's tough to get young, motivated, competitive guys to relax, train at proper paces, and recover when they need to. On one hand, he shouldn't have to hold their hands through every single practice, but he does tend to get excited and let (encourage) the team hammer each other. He's great at motivating and recruiting, but needs to figure out how to get guys to train correctly. Then we'd be able to see if his program works or not. |
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