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msooo
Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/6/2012 4:28PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
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Rick
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/6/2012 7:20PM - in reply to msooo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What about Tennis?
Dick Doobey
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/6/2012 7:26PM - in reply to msooo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Golfer.

Runners work much harder physically and have great mental strength, but on Sunday afternoon I can't imagine much more stress and pressure in a sporting arena. I think it is partly because of the amount of time you have to stand around and battle the demons. Actually similar to running in a sense, but I gotta say that holding it together on the back nine at Augusta with a 1 stroke lead is pretty tough.
Byron H.
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/6/2012 7:28PM - in reply to msooo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Jack Nicklaus smoked 2 packs a day when he was dominant to deal with pressure.
bguyj200012y1
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/6/2012 7:48PM - in reply to Byron H. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Runner definitely. I would be at ease knowing I am almost guaranteed to take home more than the average person (50K/yr) makes in a year...

Its pretty comforting to me, at least coming from the perspective of someone who didn't grow up with a silver spoon in their mouth.
Maestro
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/7/2012 8:48AM - in reply to Dick Doobey Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Dick Doobey wrote:

Golfer.

Runners work much harder physically and have great mental strength, but on Sunday afternoon I can't imagine much more stress and pressure in a sporting arena. I think it is partly because of the amount of time you have to stand around and battle the demons. Actually similar to running in a sense, but I gotta say that holding it together on the back nine at Augusta with a 1 stroke lead is pretty tough.


+1. Sooooo much time to think. Even standing over the put, everything is moving so slowly. And the intimacy and proximity of all those spectators reacting to your every move... personally, sounds nightmarish.
I would
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/7/2012 9:11AM - in reply to Dick Doobey Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Dick Doobey wrote:

Golfer.

Runners work much harder physically and have great mental strength, but on Sunday afternoon I can't imagine much more stress and pressure in a sporting arena. I think it is partly because of the amount of time you have to stand around and battle the demons. Actually similar to running in a sense, but I gotta say that holding it together on the back nine at Augusta with a 1 stroke lead is pretty tough.


I think we are comparing apples to oranges. Imagine leading by 15 meters in the last mile of a marathon. Your body is begging you to slow down, but you don't know how much the other guy has left in the tank...
glxc
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/7/2012 10:03AM - in reply to I would Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Good question to think about

Undoubtedly tons of pressure with golf. But with running I think of the pain, which golfers typically don't experience. Everything in your body is telling you to slow down, but you can't give in for one moment without risking your performance.

The elites say that they give everything in their training. Not just workouts, but what they eat, what they sleep, it's 100% lifestyle. Only by dedicating themselves completely to their performance can they have the confidence not to give in for a fraction of a second in those final stretches. Now that is focus.
cenotaph
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/7/2012 2:22PM - in reply to glxc Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
its comes down to how you determine mental strength

if its determination then running gets the win

if its more like ability to deal with nervousness, then obviously golf. i get nervous in mini golf with the family
wellletsseee
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/7/2012 2:39PM - in reply to msooo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You can't compare the two.

Long distance running requires great mental strength to take pain. Their is no pain in Golf.

If you take the pain out of the equation then running requires some strategy but little mental strength.
LM
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/7/2012 3:10PM - in reply to wellletsseee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

wellletsseee wrote:

You can't compare the two.

Long distance running requires great mental strength to take pain. Their is no pain in Golf.

If you take the pain out of the equation then running requires some strategy but little mental strength.


Basically this. Golf's "mental strength" is a battle of nerves and control. You have to be able to take all kinds of different things in stride and not let them affect your decision making, focus, or routine.

Running is about dealing with large amount of pain and fatigue. It's about not settling and not giving in.

I'd almost think of it as running in mental strength/toughness and golf is mental control/focus.
msooo
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/7/2012 8:45PM - in reply to LM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
When I posed my question, I considered mental strength to mean being able to deal with internal doubts and nervousness/jitters.
Chris Moneyloser
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/7/2012 9:55PM - in reply to msooo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Professional Poker player beats these hands down.

although to be fair, some of them also don't give a crap about the money they're risking with some of the bets.
former d1 athlete
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/7/2012 10:15PM - in reply to Chris Moneyloser Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Distance running. Why?

1) You feel like you are going to die for a couple hours every day in practice/races. Since when do golfers ever hit the physical wall?

2) To be good at running, you basically have to be on a perpetual diet. Thinking about food all the time because you're hungry stinks. Eating like a distance runner takes a lot of mental effort.

3) You can't drink or party hard realistically if you want to be a good distance runner. The PGA tour is one giant party. Seriously.

4) You have to deal with the stress of competition in both running and golf. But taking into account anxiety over an all-out physical effort, I'd say running is harder mentally.
yiuuuu
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/7/2012 10:28PM - in reply to former d1 athlete Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I would exactly call a marathoner a "distance" runner. There are races that are much longer than the marathon.
heres the deal yo
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/7/2012 10:34PM - in reply to msooo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
a golfer, does indeed need great concentration and mental power. so does a distance runner.

however, a golfer does it with no distractions whatsoever. a distance runner maintains focus while enduring a plethora of distractions, the greatest of which is pain, and pain inflicted by oneself, which for most people is the hardest to manage and maintain.

i suppose it depends on your definition. but in my book, there arent many people who have greater mental strength than elite distance runners, especially when it comes to training. lots of people can get themselves up to go golf everyday. not many people can inflict pain upon themselves the way elite runners do, day in and day out, and that is more mental than physical. i suppose however, it could also be a lack of mental power, because if nothing is going on up there, than there isnt much telling you to slow down haha.
Dennis Reynolds
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/7/2012 10:35PM - in reply to former d1 athlete Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Mentally nothing comes close to the PGA tour on Sunday at a major tour event. Ditance runner has much tougher prep work for sure and actual race is incredibly tough mentally, don't get me wrong, but PGA golfer on Sunday at Augusta or St. Andrews, distance runners can't even imagine.
sooojj
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/7/2012 10:46PM - in reply to heres the deal yo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"the greatest of which is pain, and pain inflicted by oneself, which for most people is the hardest to manage and maintain."

LOL, thanks for the laughs!
gn1tmac
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/12/2012 1:20PM - in reply to sooojj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I played golf in college and competed on the amateur level since i was 10 years old. In golf you can hit what feels like a perfect shot, and not have it be close to the hole and sometimes you can even make a big number from what at the moment of impact was all you could have asked for. It makes it a very unique sport. you can hit it longer and straighter than your opponent, hit it closer to every flag stick. but if your put is one rotation shy of the hole, you lose!
no golf
RE: Who has more mental strength: top-tier PGA pro OR Olympic distance-runner? 4/12/2012 3:24PM - in reply to gn1tmac Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'll respect golfers when they start allowing crowd noise just like any other sport. Why does a golfer get complete silence when hitting a stationary ball but a MLB player has 20,000+ fans screaming when trying to hit a ball coming at him at 90+mph. Or a NFL field goal kicker or NBA player shooting free throws?
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