Pages: | 1 | 2 |
chasing 400
400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/5/2012 2:19AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why is there a ban on indoor tracks over 300/320m for competition purposes (and can someone link me to that rule)?

I think it would be awesome to have more 400m indoor tracks. I know there's that one in Alaska and one in Canada, but it's ridiculous that they can't be used for qualifying times.

I mean, you're running the same distance either way; there's not much of an advantage unless it's just psychological. (Sharp turns, blah blah blah... I don't want to hear it).
Not Not
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/5/2012 2:29AM - in reply to chasing 400 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Indoors is not a major.
you're an idiot
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/5/2012 3:28AM - in reply to chasing 400 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

chasing 400 wrote:

Why is there a ban on indoor tracks over 300/320m for competition purposes (and can someone link me to that rule)?

I think it would be awesome to have more 400m indoor tracks. I know there's that one in Alaska and one in Canada, but it's ridiculous that they can't be used for qualifying times.

I mean, you're running the same distance either way; there's not much of an advantage unless it's just psychological. (Sharp turns, blah blah blah... I don't want to hear it).


As someone who is a 6'5" sprinter, I can assure you that your last parenthetical may be the dumbest thing I've ever read on the site. The difference between a 400m curve and an undersized curve is light years.
Merrrr
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/5/2012 7:35AM - in reply to you're an idiot Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

you're an idiot wrote:



As someone who is a 6'5" sprinter, I can assure you that your last parenthetical may be the dumbest thing I've ever read on the site. The difference between a 400m curve and an undersized curve is light years.


Usain Bolt has made his first appearance on LetsRun!
SebCoesGhost
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/5/2012 8:10AM - in reply to chasing 400 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It has always been my understanding that times on these indoor 400m tracks count as OUTDOOR times (qualifying for events such as NCAAs, OTrials, etc.), rather than indoor times.
chasing 400
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/5/2012 10:55AM - in reply to you're an idiot Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Well I'm not a sprinter, moron. Prove what you're saying with a results link or something instead of being a f-a-g about it.
Dick B Long
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/5/2012 11:51AM - in reply to chasing 400 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

chasing 400 wrote:

Well I'm not a sprinter, moron. Prove what you're saying with a results link or something instead of being a f-a-g about it.


You have to be one of the dumbest posters on LR. If you need a results link for proof that tight curves slow a runner down then you are a retard.
chasing 400
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/5/2012 1:59PM - in reply to Dick B Long Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hey, go f*** yourself. I'm not dumb, and there is a high probability I'm far more intelligent than you.
kertwang
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/5/2012 2:03PM - in reply to chasing 400 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
the whole point of 'indoors' is that it is 200m track. Whether it is outdoors or in doesn't matter as much.
captain and me
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/5/2012 2:06PM - in reply to chasing 400 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
prove it!! From what we have seen so far, the consensus opinion is that you are a retard. Indoors has no wind, that is the only advantage, the tighter the turn the slower (especially non-banked) you'll run, and the faster you run the more you are affected (i.e. 400m versus mile).
haha so obvious
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/5/2012 2:19PM - in reply to chasing 400 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

chasing 400 wrote:

Hey, go f*** yourself. I'm not dumb, and there is a high probability I'm far more intelligent than you.


I agree with everyone else in this thread, you're a moron.

You say that you're not a sprinter; does that mean that only distance events count in track? Should it not matter that all sprint events are severely affected by a tighter curve? Just because it doesn't affect YOU, it doesn't affect anyone?

It's utterly laughable that you need "proof" that a tighter curve is more difficult to sprint around. Even if you're not sprinting, a miler or 5k guy is going to move slower around a 100m track than a 200m or a 400m track; that should be obvious. If it's not, well, then again, you're a moron.
chasing 400
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/5/2012 2:51PM - in reply to haha so obvious Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

haha so obvious wrote:

Should it not matter that all sprint events are severely affected by a tighter curve? Just because it doesn't affect YOU, it doesn't affect anyone?

It's utterly laughable that you need "proof" that a tighter curve is more difficult to sprint around. Even if you're not sprinting, a miler or 5k guy is going to move slower around a 100m track than a 200m or a 400m track; that should be obvious. If it's not, well, then again, you're a moron.


Let me ask you something. You do something in life and have a certain experience, from which you then draw a certain conclusion. You assume that most people will form a similar conclusion in similar situations, but you aren't certain, so you state as much. How is this moronic at all? I already stated I'm not a sprinter -- so if a sprinter KINDLY told me "Hey, those turns make a big difference for our times!" then I would say "Oh, okay, I was wrong. I guess that's why indoor tracks have their own set of records".

INSTEAD, I get some insulting reply that really missed my whole point about the discussion being related to 400m indoor tracks. He said something false about my intelligence (I have high grades in a technical major and most people consider me very practical), so I took offense to the statement and retorted with a similarly rude and unsavory response.
meanoldguy
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/5/2012 6:43PM - in reply to chasing 400 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

chasing 400 wrote:

Well I'm not a sprinter, moron. Prove what you're saying with a results link or something instead of being a f-a-g about it.


No need to prove anything to you. Clearly you don't get it.

There is no ban on 400 m indoor tracks. The question should be why build one? Track is a small sport. Indoor traxck is even smaller. The tracks fit in hockey and basketball arenas. If they didn't, there wouldn't be any indoor track. Unless its you running around your basement.

Indoor track and field has its own events - i.e. weight throw, its special implements - plastic coated shots. No javelin.

Its like a kids tea party for track.
haha so obvious
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/6/2012 12:55PM - in reply to chasing 400 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
bumping to embarrass this kid
Clapboard
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/6/2012 1:03PM - in reply to haha so obvious Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Anyone have a link to that mile on the outdoor, 100 meter track in Alaska?

I couldn't find it.
toro
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/6/2012 3:00PM - in reply to chasing 400 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

chasing 400 wrote:

Why is there a ban on indoor tracks over 300/320m for competition purposes (and can someone link me to that rule)?





There is no ban on large indoor tracks for competition purposes.
goldenrod
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/6/2012 3:05PM - in reply to toro Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
There's a 440m mondo track in Salt Lake City around the Olympic Ice Oval.

Why not host an outdoor meet in a facility like that? Always perfect weather....
Perpetual Motion
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/6/2012 3:09PM - in reply to chasing 400 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I actually think the rule is that indoor records from oversized indoor track don't count.

People run faster in a straight line than on a curve. With a 200m track vs a 300m or 400m track, there are more curves for the same distance, the curves are tighter, and the straightaways are shorter. That's physics, not psychology. All other things being equal (wind, altitude, temperature, etc) it's still easier to run a faster time on a bigger track so they don't count for records.
Track Geeky
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/6/2012 3:25PM - in reply to chasing 400 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Not strictly on point, but if I were a billionaire, I would build straight, level mile-long track with one of those motorized cameras mounted on a rail that would go alongside the runners for the whole length and show the leaders on a jumbotron. You could run everything from the 200 up to the mile without a turn.

It wouldn't count for records, but would be very cool IMHO. You could probably get some "world's fastest" or whatever they call records on unapproved courses.
Paul Ron
RE: 400m indoor tracks -- why the ban? 4/6/2012 6:59PM - in reply to chasing 400 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

chasing 400 wrote:

Well I'm not a sprinter, moron. Prove what you're saying with a results link or something instead of being a f-a-g about it.


Take a look at the indoor versus outdoor records... moron!
Pages: | 1 | 2 |