I recently received and e-mail that read: Quote:
My name is Joe Carnegie, I am a personal trainer. I develop a training program, that will drop your mile easy. My speed and speed endurance program, is $40 a month. If you get this, e-mail me back today.
Can anyone tell me a little bit more about this guy? I'm guessing he saw my post on LetsRun earlier today, but still it's a little odd, kinda sounds like a scam.
He often makes posts touting his PRs and his 'coaching', but rarely offers any advice that could be construed as demonstrating any sort of coaching philosophy or experience.
Carnegie don't give out free information. He have over a 115 members on his running site.
seems like it would be better received if he just said "hey, my name is XXX XXX and this is my experience with running, and this is my experience with coaching, if you are looking for coaching I am available, these are my rates, etc
that's what I would do anyway...
he'd be better received if he threw a bone every once in a while and didn't use every single post as a means of promoting himself and his business.
Joe approached nearly every master runner who competed at worlds in Sacramento and the USATF meet in Berea, OH. He handed out a business card and a promise to make us as fast as he is by helping us with our speed endurance. One of the runners he approached was Scott Weeks, who ran 1:55/4:17 (mile) inddors this year. He's clearly doing pretty well without Joe's guidance.
There is some good information on the web about speed endurance and 800/1500m training. I also think it's very difficult to build a good athlete-coach relationship with someone you have never met and with someone who is not physically present at any of your workouts to evaluate your form, energy level, etc.
When I started posting over at the masterstrack.com forum, Joe sent me several PM's offering his coaching services. I've been on his website but he doesn't really state anything about his coaching of training philosophy that I could tell. He does give his bio, though.
Born Dec 24, 1965 in Hollywood Fla. He went to Dillard High in Ft Lauderdale FLA, graduating in 1984. Played on Football, Basketball, Cross Country and Track teams in High school. He was second team all cross country in Broward County. Carnegie took 16th out of 100 runners at Florida high school state cross country meet after having started the season as eighth man on the team and ending up second man to come in at State. Carnegie was Broward Country 800 & Mile champion--he ran 1:56.1 and 4:20 that year. He went to the state championship and placed 4th in the mile 4:16.0 and eighth in the 800m 1:56.1.
Events: 200 meters up to the 30k
Height: 6 feet 1/2
Carnegie PRs 18 to 29 years old
PRs: 100 (10.6 ht), 200 (21.3 ht), 400 (47.0), 500 meters (59.3), 600 (1:17.3), 800 (1:49.1) relay 1:48.5, 1000 (2:23.1), 1500 (3:45.0), 1600 (4:06.0), 3000 (8:15), 2 mile (8:51)
5k (14:30), 4 miles (19:27), 10k (30:13), Half - Marathon (1:09.10), 30k (1:49)
Sub master PRs 30 to 39 years old.
100 (10.6), 150 (15.9) 200 (21.6) 48.5 (400) 500 meters (1:03.5) 600 meters (1:17.3), 800 (1:49.3), (1:50.4) 800 and a (3:50), 1500 at 34 years old, also ran a (1:52.8) at 39 years of age, 1000 meters (2:24.2), 1500 (3:47.0) 1600 meters (4:06.0), 3k (8:20), 2 mile (8:51.1)
Also a (9:19) 2 mile at 39 years old, 5k (14:30), (14:30 three mile at 39 years old), (19:27), 4 - mile at 36 years old, 19:37 - 4 miles at 37 years old, 19:38 at 38 years old, At 39 years old he ran 9:19 two mile at The Fresno Cross City Run.
He ran a (31:06) 10k at the Fresno Cross City Run when he was 37 years old and came back at 39 years old and won the 2 mile in 9:19. He ran under 1:10 three times at the Fresno Half - Marathon. His best time was a 1:09:10 off 50 miles a week.
MASTER PRs 40 to 45 years old.
100 meters (10.9 ht), 200 meters (22.6 ht), 400 meters (49.4 ht), 500 meters (1:05.0) 600 meters (1:21.6) 800 meters (1:56.1), 1500 (3:58.0), 1600 (4:21)
3000 (8:59), 2 miles (9:23), 3 miles (14:30), 4 miles (20:51), Half - Marathon (1:16.20)
Carnegie can run though. Here he is winning a semi-final race at the World Masters' Championship in 2011 in 2:00.77. I wish I had his leg turnover. :-)
I used to run against him all the time in all comers meets at Los Gatos HS. That dude out kicked me more times than I care to remember. Of course, his PRs were monumentally faster than mine, so I'm not sure why he would sit and kick on scrubs like me. I swear to god, one time, were were running an 800 and I didn't want him sitting on me, so I went really slow through 400, some lady actually led at one lap, so I was thinking, OK, maybe Joe feels sick today or something, so I accelerated hard for the next 200. Next thing I know is, Here comes Joe, moving up on my outside shoulder, and kicks down for the win in something like 2:01. I'm not sure why he would acutally do those races. They really can't even have been that good training wise for him. He had a 1:49 to his name at the time. He sat on EVERYONE! Yes, I realize they were all comers meets and all, but everyone I knew was sick of that guy and his shennanigans.
Glad to see from the video that he grew a pair and was not affraid to go out and run hard from the gun.