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Stockton obviously has the assist record due partly to longevity, but he was also a fantastic defensive player. Stockton was apparently very quick, tough and a leader Nash makes everyone better, shoots a rediculous FG%, and would be in top 3 all time assists had he not come off the bench a few years behind Kidd? So who is/was better? |
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Good question and I'll be interested to see the results pour in. While I'm not going to "ding" Stockton for this, he did get to play his entire career with one of the very best scorers in NBA history. Perhaps this is a chicken-or-the-egg argument: did that help Stockton, or was Malone so effective because of Stockton? There's obviously no comparison in terms of career statistics and Stockton has a big leg up over Nash on the defensive side of the ball; however, my "eye test" tells me that Nash is the better player. In the end, I'm giving the slight edge to Stockton. As a PG he got to the NBA finals on 2 occasions (something Nash lacks). However, I'd have loved to see how effective Stockton would have been with a bunch of rag-tags like Nash has now... |
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Nash...by a long shot. Stockton is old and likely much slower while Nash is still playing. Same thing as asking if Kobe is better than MJ...of course. MJ is old and much more hefty than he was in his playing days. Now if you asked if Kobe is better than MJ was that's the real debate! |
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Ummm...no. Anyone who knows anything about basketball knows that Kobe isn't fit to tie MJ's shoelaces. Sorry, but there is no intelligent debate here. |
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Jason Kidd is the best of the three. but based on your main question, Stockton was better than Nash, but he also played at a weaker time in the NBA. Nash cant play D for crap though, and that is why Stockton is a better overall player. |
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I'd pick Nash over Stockton, but if you think the NBA is better/more competitive/stronger now than it was in the 90s, you are an idiot. |
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Stockton's assist numbers were juiced at home, and he was more of a discretely-grab-his-man's-shirt defender than a lock-down defender. If Nash could hand-check the crap out of people on the perimeter like Stockton could prior the rules change, Nash would be a much better defender. Nash is a far more versatile and creative offensive player and a better shooter than Stockton was. And, he has had much worse coaches, a far less stable roster, and a less talent to play with than Stockton... and they both won roughly the same amount. Also, for those that care about awards, Nash has more All-NBA first teams and 2 MVP awards to Stockton's zero (and Stockton was never close to winning one of those). Nash FTW. |
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Agreed. Nash is more offensively potent than Stockton. Nash has a carrer high 48 pt game vs Dallas and had one of the best offensive playoff series I have ever see. Nashs' game is also very creative, bordering on revolutionary the way he uses the baseline as an offensive weapon. He was the first player I ever saw, run right to the base line and use it as a position to pass from. |
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The NBA is much stronger now than it has ever been. Both in quality of players and quality of teams. It's really not close. Kobe, wade, lebron, Dwight, Durante, deron Williams, dirk, Nash, amare, Westbrook, gasol, bosh, rose, Duncan, ginobili Name 15 better players who played te majority of their careers in the 90s |
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Kidd is NOT the best of the three. He's not any kind of a good shooter. |
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Stockton by a long shot. If you think otherwise, then you're either an idiot or too young to have seen Stockton play. |
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Nash obviously has more flash on offense but I remember when the Bulls played the Jazz in the finals, Phil Jackson had to resort to putting Scottie Pippen on Stockton in order to throttle the Jazz offense. That speaks volumes. Nash is known for having a high FG pct as PG, but Stockton was actually a little better in this regard. From 1993 to 1997 Stockton averaged over 53% FG pct. Nash shot .532 in 2006, his best year ever. |
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Nash obviously is better. Stockton obviously was better. End of thread. |
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This thread is RACIST! |
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The west was tougher for Nash. He really only had good talent around him for a few year stretch and they were up against the Spurs, Lakers, and a strong Dallas. '05 Conference finals, lose to San Antionio. Joe Johnson out the first 2 games. (Nash's first year with Suns). '06 Conference finals, lose to Dallas. Stoudemire out the whole season. '07 Conference semi-finals, lose to San Antionio. Nash kept out of the last minutes of a close game due to bloody nose. Cheap shot by Horry brings Stoudemire & Diaw off the bench, suspending them for a game. Close series that if they won, would have lead to a likely victory over the Jazz, and then championship victory over the weak 07 Cavs. Then things fell apart, D'Antony leaves, Nash still pulls the '10 suns to a conference final and loses against eventual champ Lakers. And I believe he was with the Mavs for another conference final loss to the Spurs. Not to say he's better than Stockton, but put him in the East and he may have gotten to 5 Finals. |
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for you young guys please do not forget Oscar Robertson he may be the most productive player in the history of the game. Dude AVERAGED a triple double one season, no one has done it prior to his achievement and no one is even close to that now. |
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Or Ginibli? |
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The NBA is much stronger now than it has ever been. Both in quality of players and quality of teams. It's really not close. Kobe, wade, lebron, Dwight, Durante, deron Williams, dirk, Nash, amare, Westbrook, gasol, bosh, rose, Duncan, ginobili Name 15 better players who played te majority of their careers in the 90s[/quote] Wow is all I can say. This is really off-base. The league has changed drastically, but the 90s, in many ways, was a golden era for the true center. Just to name a few: Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, David Robinson, Alonzo Mourning...all legendary centers from the 90s Also I could mention: MJ, Pippin, Isaiah Thomas, Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley, Grant Hill, Dominique Wilkins, Stockton... |
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