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ByeByeBaby
Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 1:43PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Jordan Hasay was a woman among girls in high school and one of the premier distance runners in college; however, she is nearing 22 years old and at a standstill. She has yet to run sub 4:10 for 1500m and sub 9 minutes for 3000m. At the time it seems she has nearly maxed out her potential at the shorter distances and should consider moving up to 5000m/10000m if she wants to pursue a post collegiate career.

Hasay Jordan USA (born 1991)
National Junior Championships: 2007 (1st, 1500m)
NCAA Indoor Championships: 2011 (1st, Mile & 3000m)

Personal Best - Outdoor
One Mile 4:44.28
13/06/2009

3000 Metres 9:15.78
19/07/2010

5000 Metres 15:37.29
15/04/2011


Personal Best - Indoor

One Mile 4:33.01
12/03/2011

3000 Metres 9:13.7
12/03/2011
Maxed what
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 1:47PM - in reply to ByeByeBaby Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Maxed out?
What does that even mean? How does someone max out? All you have to do is find your limiting factors and improve them.
ByeByeBaby
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 2:47PM - in reply to Maxed what Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You're retarded! Everyone has a max in any physical ability and if you took time to think before you typed you wouldn 't post such stupidity! Name a track and field athlete that continues to improve EVERY year for numerous years UNTIL they retirement? At some point every runner reach a point where a certain mark that will remain their personal best in an event and when that happens they move up in distance. Jordan Hasay appears to be nearing hers in the 1500m/3000m as she hasn't improved much in those events since high school!
Speaking of Sandwiches
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 2:49PM - in reply to Maxed what Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Maxed what wrote:

Maxed out?
What does that even mean? How does someone max out? All you have to do is find your limiting factors and improve them.


1/10
The MonBRO Doctrine
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 2:54PM - in reply to ByeByeBaby Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Bernard Lagat didn't even win an NCAA championship until his senior year. He was a 3:37 guy going into his senior year. Jordan Hasay could still get better, like Lagat. Or like her former teammate Matt Centrowitz.
Maxed what
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 3:03PM - in reply to ByeByeBaby Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

ByeByeBaby wrote:

You're retarded! Everyone has a max in any physical ability and if you took time to think before you typed you wouldn 't post such stupidity! Name a track and field athlete that continues to improve EVERY year for numerous years UNTIL they retirement? At some point every runner reach a point where a certain mark that will remain their personal best in an event and when that happens they move up in distance. Jordan Hasay appears to be nearing hers in the 1500m/3000m as she hasn't improved much in those events since high school!



What is wrong with you. Chill.

How do you know that everyone has a max in a physical ability? What determines this max?

Define "numerous years". I will assume that means at least 3. I'd say that every runner that I know is faster after 3 years of training than they were after 1. Do you not see the same thing in your running friends?

Perhaps Hasay just needs to improve her top end speed so she'll have more room to improve in the 1500/3000m.
A little logic
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 3:09PM - in reply to Maxed what Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Maxed what wrote:

...How do you know that everyone has a max in a physical ability?...


Seemingly safe assumption: Nobody will ever run the mile in less than zero seconds.

Conclusion: Everyone has a max physical ability which will limit them to performances above X seconds for the mile run where X is some number between zero and their current PR, inclusive.

QED
Maxed out
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 3:13PM - in reply to A little logic Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

A little logic wrote:

[quote]Maxed what wrote:

...How do you know that everyone has a max in a physical ability?...


Seemingly safe assumption: Nobody will ever run the mile in less than zero seconds.

Conclusion: Everyone has a max physical ability which will limit them to performances above X seconds for the mile run where X is some number between zero and their current PR, inclusive.

QED[/quote]

Right ok
Good Luck
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 3:15PM - in reply to ByeByeBaby Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
She's only at a 4-year running camp. Many options after university. My guess is she'll be back coached by Dr Sequiros and live in SLO or Frisco Bay Area. That's where the best runners are.
ByeByeBaby
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 3:44PM - in reply to Good Luck Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Jordan Hasay's most American female white hop who will never win an Olympic or World 1500m or 5000m medal. Her 1500m personal best is still 4:10 at 21 and there are several European, Africans, and Orientals who would leave her in their dust. It's sad but it's time to realize that she hasn't improved much performance wise from age 17 to 21; however, her African counterparts of similiar age would run circles around her.
agip
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 3:50PM - in reply to ByeByeBaby Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
the better way to look at Hassay is that she has always been near the top, at each level. jr high, high school and now college.

She doesn't win a whole lot, but she is always right there.

That is a pretty good indicator of where she'll be in 2016. Probably dicing for an olympic spot in the 5k or 10k. Not winning the trials, but close.
Stupidity personified
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 3:57PM - in reply to ByeByeBaby Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Nearing 22 years old? Obviously math was not one of your better subjects in school. She has six more months and an entire outdoor season ahead before she turns 21. Plus, you don't even have her times right. You're definitely not good with numbers.
bloob
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 4:14PM - in reply to ByeByeBaby Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Unless you listed PRs only achieved while at Oregon, her outdoor mile is 4:42.21.
ByeByeBaby
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 6:12PM - in reply to Stupidity personified Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I take it Stupidity is your first name? Jordan Hasay was born September 1991; therefore, she's past 21 and 22 comes after 21 STUPID!

Agip

That's a very accurate assestment about her being near the top in high school and college but not winning more then she loses. Yes she could very well be make some Olympic and World teams without winning very many U.S Championships and no World and Olympic medals.
Math Man
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 6:57PM - in reply to ByeByeBaby Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

ByeByeBaby wrote:

I take it Stupidity is your first name? Jordan Hasay was born September 1991; therefore, she's past 21 and 22 comes after 21 STUPID!...


2012 - 1991....let's see, carry the one...

I love it when people call other people stupid when they themselves are apparently unable to subtract.

Thanks, I needed that.
More effort next time
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 7:31PM - in reply to ByeByeBaby Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why don't you try getting her times right, and avoid selectively reporting the ones that only support your case.

She broke the school record (again) in the 3000 this indoor season:

9:03.95 2/25/12

Also, her 1500 time is more relevant than the old outdoor mile time:

1,500 Meters - 4:10.28,
Payton Jordan Cardinal Invitational,
Stanford, Calif., 5/1/11

She is competitive within her age group, and with athletes older than her (Sheila Reid).


ByeByeBaby wrote:

Personal Best - Outdoor
One Mile 4:44.28
13/06/2009

3000 Metres 9:15.78
19/07/2010

5000 Metres 15:37.29
15/04/2011


Personal Best - Indoor

One Mile 4:33.01
12/03/2011

3000 Metres 9:13.7
12/03/2011
ByeByeBaby
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 7:39PM - in reply to More effort next time Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Okay let's give her some improvement and go with 4:10.01 for 1500m and 9:00.01 and she's still 21 and yet to break either barrier. Didn't Infield just run 4:08 and she don't get nearly the attention as Golden Girl Hasay. Hasay has to move up to the 10000m or she will be a also ran if she goes pro. Also didn't a 18 year Ethiopian just run under 4:03 two or three times indoors? Pull the blinders from your eyes and you too will see Jordan hasn't really improved much time wise since she was 16/17 and it's over four years later! She's 21 and there are several distance athletes who are world-class and will be competing at the Olympics at that age and haven't stalled as long as Jordan Hasay.
hoodie denial
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 7:45PM - in reply to ByeByeBaby Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
She is 20.5 years old. Geezes I swear people are a clueless.
Do your homework
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 10:48PM - in reply to ByeByeBaby Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
While I truly like Emily and wish her the best, I'm only posting this to point out a few things to the argumentative "ByeByeBaby." He/she compared Jordan to Emily and concluded that Jordan is washed up. Here's a more thorough comparison:

Jordan has attained times very close to Emily's at an age 1-2 years younger that Emily. I think Jordan still has time to progress. She's only a junior who is 20 years, 6 months old. In her interviews from this indoor season, she indicated that she's training through indoors and looking to put up some fast times this outdoor season in time-trial type races. I'll pull this thread back up and update her PRs as they roll in.

Emily Infeld
birthdate: March 21, 1990
PRs
2/11/12 9:00.13 3000m age 21 years, 11 months (almost 22)
6/26/11 4:08.96 USATF 1500 final age 21 years, 3 months
6/8/11 15:38.23 5000m age 21 years, 3 months
4/14/11 4:12.04 1500m age 21 years, 1 month
2/5/10 4:36.83 mile age 20 years, 11 months (almost 21)

Jordan Hasay
birthdate: September 21, 1991
PRs
2/25/12 9:03.95 3000m age 20 years, 5 months
5/1/11 4:10.28 1500m age 19 years, 8 months
4/15/11 15:37.29 5000m 19 years, 7 months
3/12/11 4:33.01 mile 19 years, 6 months

Jordan Hasay
High School PRs
2008 9:19.6 3000m age 16 years
2008 4:14.50 1500m age 16 years



ByeByeBaby wrote:

Okay let's give her some improvement and go with 4:10.01 for 1500m and 9:00.01 and she's still 21 and yet to break either barrier. Didn't Infield just run 4:08 and she don't get nearly the attention as Golden Girl Hasay. Hasay has to move up to the 10000m or she will be a also ran if she goes pro. Also didn't a 18 year Ethiopian just run under 4:03 two or three times indoors? Pull the blinders from your eyes and you too will see Jordan hasn't really improved much time wise since she was 16/17 and it's over four years later! She's 21 and there are several distance athletes who are world-class and will be competing at the Olympics at that age and haven't stalled as long as Jordan Hasay.
Let the girl finish college...
RE: Jordan Hasay running career will end after college unless she moves up to 10000m 3/26/2012 10:55PM - in reply to Do your homework Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
JH will do fine at Mammoth, Flag, Dago, or Tucson where the best elite training partners and coaches are today. She's only in college now for Christsakes. Look how well Ryan Hall, Sara Bei, Deena Drossin, Desi Davila, Abdi, and other Los Angeles kids have done.
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