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These are the athletes who were picked after all the fields were filled 60m 16 Ameer Webb JR Texas A&M 6.66 60m 17 Clayton Vaughn SO UT-Arlington 6.66 60m 18 Horatio Williams SR Florida State 6.66 60m 19 Prezel Hardy, Jr. SO Texas A&M 6.66 60m 20 Kind Butler SR Indiana 6.67 3K 16 Thomas Farrell JR Oklahoma State 7:52.38 3K 17 George Alex SR Oklahoma 7:52.92 5K 16 Girma Mecheso JR Oklahoma State 13:50.03 TJ 17 Chris Phipps SR Nebraska 15.78m SP 16 Nick Vena FR Virginia 18.92m WT 16 Ethan Dennis SO Michigan 21.07m HEP 16 Dave Grzesiak SR Wisconsin 5677 4x4 12 Chris Vaughn SR Indiana 3:07.84 4x4 12 Ryan Hindes SR Indiana 3:07.84 4x4 12 Nick Stoner FR Indiana 3:07.84 4x4 12 Kind Butler SR Indiana 3:07.84 All I can say is Oregon's and Princeton's DMR deserved to be in over most of these guys |
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You don't understand how the fields are filled. There is a numerical cap on the number of total athletes per gender allowed into the meet. The minimum field size is taken and the number of athletes is calculated. From there one athlete (or ore if there is a tie) and one relay is added to each event. Total athletes in meet is calculated again. This process continues as long as there is room under cap to add one athlete (with ties) and one relay to each event. If there is not room under cap to add one athlete and one relay to each event, the committee then evaulates strength of events and adds extra athletes to those events deemed stronger until the cap number is reached. At that point, the committee then goes to the first athlete left out in each event - if that athlete is already in the meet in another event, they will be added to the other event. |
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I DO know how it is calculated First Round Fill Autos Second Round Fill to 14 per event (10 for relays) Third Round Fill to 15 per event (11 for relays) Fourth Round (becuase you cant add across the board now comes down to ncaa preferences) And they chose the following people mentioned above with the exception of the ones above who are already in the meet. But after the round of filling to 15 (11 for relays) + tied people the total number of athletes was 275 So they had 9 athlete spots remaining. They could have chose to give 5 of those 9 slots to Oregon DMR (2) and Princeton DMR (3) then the 4 spots somewhere else. I read the rules. |
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I am inclined to think that perhaps the question of putting 13 teams on the line for the final was a bit much for the first leg. |
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They took 16-20 in the 60 because Webb, Williams, Hardy and Butler were already in the meet because of the 200. The UT-Arlington guy got taken along for the ride, or can be considered the 16th in the 60. Take your pick. Those DMR's would add how many guys? Taking them would affect a lot of events. Everybody knew going in that 11 in the DMR would likely be it. Running faster was an option for Oregon and Princeton. |
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Ah, reading comprehension. Anyway, 11 in the DMR is it, as a smarter guy than me said above. |
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Dunbar will never contend as a DMR anchor and Callahan folded when it mattered. See ya at Penn! |
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Yes, controlling your own destiny is always the best option, whether you're running a DMR or the 60. Anyone who doesn't get the auto qualifier and/or the top 10 times lives on the pleasure of the Committee. That includes all those additional 60 runners who had the option of running faster but didn't, not just the DMR teams you dismissed. |
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The 60's guys from 16-20 were already in the meet, except for the UT-Arlington guy, because they were also qualified in the 200 from being top 12. The UT-Arlington guy was the 16th counter from the 60. |
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The 60's guys from 16-20 were already in the meet, except for the UT-Arlington guy, because they were also qualified in the 200 from being top 12. The UT-Arlington guy was the 16th counter from the 60.[/quote] Let me try again. "That includes all those additional athletes in all events (including the 60) who also had the option of performing better but didn't and yet still got in by the graces of the Committee, not just the DMR team you dismissed, not just the DMR teams you dismissed." |