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Former Barakus Obama
Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 7:43AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
1 David Rudisha KEN 1:44.33
2 Jeffrey Riseley AUS 1:45.62
3 Lachlan Renshaw AUS 1:46.06
4 James Gurr AUS 1:46.45
5 Nick Symmonds USA 1:48.03
6 James Kaan AUS 1:48.31
7 Alexander Rowe AUS 1:48.70
8 Jordan Williams AUS 1:54.93
Sammy Tangui KEN DNF

But he was outkicked by the virtually unknown James Gurr.
Time to retire
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 8:22AM - in reply to Former Barakus Obama Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Stick a fork in him, he's done.

Time to retire?
Former Barakus Obama
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 8:58AM - in reply to Former Barakus Obama Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Dont think so...but to make Olympic finals will be very difficult for him.
eugene lurker
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 9:18AM - in reply to Former Barakus Obama Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
i saw him about a month ago on the track with the other otc crew. he's just not in good shape yet. plain and simple. you people need to chill out.
Sprintgeezer
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 9:18AM - in reply to Former Barakus Obama Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
David Rudisha.

And so, it begins...
Centrofan5
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 10:22AM - in reply to Former Barakus Obama Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Symmonds didn't go all the way to Melbourne because he planned on running 1:48. He travelled all that way cause he thought he could run. He has got to be doubting himself now. He is in trouble.
coach d
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 10:53AM - in reply to Centrofan5 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It would make him #11 on the NCAA 800 indoor list...WITHOUT the adjustment from outdoors.
inside edition
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 11:17AM - in reply to Centrofan5 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
[quote]Centrofan5 wrote:

Symmonds didn't go all the way to Melbourne because he planned on running 1:48.

You are correct. He went there for extended training in better weather.
coach d
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 11:24AM - in reply to inside edition Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

inside edition wrote:

[quote]Centrofan5 wrote:

Symmonds didn't go all the way to Melbourne because he planned on running 1:48.

You are correct. He went there for extended training in better weather.


Nick himself seem to think otherwise:



NickSymmonds ‏ @NickSymmonds
Another terrible race tonight. I'd be worried if I didn't have one of the wisest coaches in the game. I know Row will find the problem!

Sprintgeezer
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 12:28PM - in reply to coach d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Symmonds may not have won the race, but he did START, RUN, and FINISH the race, and tried his best.

That's what real men do.

Unlike Solinskrap.
joecrunner
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 12:37PM - in reply to coach d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Better to run your bad races now and work on any problems than when late summer roles around.
coach d
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 12:50PM - in reply to joecrunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Until that tweet from Nick himself, I thought maybe he was working on overdistance and not speed. But it sounds like Nick is indeed having problems.

I see Charles Jock from time to time at the UCI track--very nice kid I might add. Nick does indeed have something to worry about. I think Jock is going to come to the OT as a 1:43 guy and right now, I think I'd bet on Jock winning the OT 800, not Symmonds.

Jock
Andrews
Ryan Martin (UC Santa Barbara)
Loxsom

Maybe not all of them quite this year, but just a matter of time now.
i kinda like running
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 1:48PM - in reply to Former Barakus Obama Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
1:48 is reason enough to be concerned, but I certainly wouldn't panic at this point if I'm Nick Symmonds. He knows he's a 1:43-1:44 guy when everything is clicking, and things just haven't started clicking yet. Just be patient, trust your coach, and believe in yourself. The talent is there. Keep working.
TrackCoach
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 2:10PM - in reply to coach d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

coach d wrote:

Until that tweet from Nick himself, I thought maybe he was working on overdistance and not speed. But it sounds like Nick is indeed having problems.

I see Charles Jock from time to time at the UCI track--very nice kid I might add. Nick does indeed have something to worry about. I think Jock is going to come to the OT as a 1:43 guy and right now, I think I'd bet on Jock winning the OT 800, not Symmonds.

Jock
Andrews
Ryan Martin (UC Santa Barbara)
Loxsom

Maybe not all of them quite this year, but just a matter of time now.


I agree with you on Jock, I think Jock and Cas are the future of the 800 in the U.S. Andrews will perhaps always be an 800/mile type, but he will opt for the mile when it really counts as in the USOT. As a 47/48 400m runner, there is a practical limit to how fast you are ever going to run an 800. Andrews, Symmonds, Wheating, etc., stay off the pace in fast 800s because they have to; going out in in 50 point would be like sprinting to them. I think Andrews can be a consistent 1:43 800m runner which is still pretty fast. The rumor is he's not in great shape right now, but once he returns to form, I would not be suprised to see him drop a 3:35 in his first pro 1500.
chauncey
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 3:14PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Symmonds may not have won the race, but he did START, RUN, and FINISH the race, and tried his best.

That's what real men do.

Unlike Solinskrap.


You need to get a grip. Your obsession with Chris Solinsky is bizarre and more than a little creepy. Should he be worried about his family's safety? I'm not kidding.
inside edition
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 4:31PM - in reply to coach d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
[quote]coach d wrote:


Nick himself seem to think otherwise: quote]


Not saying that he wasn't disappointed/concerned. Some of his workouts have not gone as well as anticipated.

I would agree that Coach R will likely straighten things out.

Trials will be interesting.
Jim Rockford
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 5:11PM - in reply to chauncey Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"Should he be worried about his family's safety? I'm not kidding."

0/10
Sloop John B
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 6:02PM - in reply to Former Barakus Obama Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Was Symmonds decision to use himself as an advertisement the kiss of death??
Largest
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 7:06PM - in reply to chauncey Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sprintgeezer is right. It is next to impossible to root for solinskrap after multiple DNFs and phantom pushes off the track.
Goldenboy
RE: Symmonds ran 1:48 in Melbourne, Sure, it's March Nick, not August! 3/3/2012 8:02PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hey, look at the bright side, at least he's running faster than Alan Webb. Symmonds will turn it around in time, relax people.
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