NoCollegeTeam
No College team, what do I do? 2/29/2012 4:47PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I am currently a high school senior. The college I am planning on attending in the fall (for various reasons) does not offer Cross Country or Track for men. As I am still interested in continuing running, I was looking for advice/opinions on what I should do. I would consider myself an above average High School runner.
My PR's are:
400m: :55.9r
800m: 2:07.0
1600m: 4:36.0
3200m: 9:58.5
3 miles: 16:28

Obviously I am hoping to improve all of those times (except the 3 mile) this spring. I was considering running a half marathon soon after state for track, and a full marathon in the fall.

Any advice/opinions on training, racing, etc. would be greatly appreciated!
Sp!kes
RE: No College team, what do I do? 2/29/2012 6:06PM - in reply to NoCollegeTeam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
First advice: consider attending a school where you can run xc and track. If you ask people who ran for their college teams about their experience, 99% will say it is one of the most memorable things in their lives. Even if your run d3, just run for your school!

Next piece of advice: DO NOT RUN A MARATHON YET! Focus on shorter stuff for now. 5ks and 10ks and even a lot of 4x400 relays this spring. Run a marathon in 5 years or more.
female coach
RE: No College team, what do I do? 2/29/2012 6:14PM - in reply to NoCollegeTeam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
those are excellent times,
comparable to some of the best young high school girls in the country, check out the annual lists in T&F News, thanks to Title IX, you could get a scholarship. If not, go to school in a big city that has open or all-comer track meets.
http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/mtrack/2011-12/2012oxydistancecarnival
Whats your problem??
RE: No College team, what do I do? 2/29/2012 6:27PM - in reply to female coach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

female coach wrote:

those are excellent times,
comparable to some of the best young high school girls in the country, check out the annual lists in T&F News, thanks to Title IX, you could get a scholarship. If not, go to school in a big city that has open or all-comer track meets.
http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/mtrack/2011-12/2012oxydistancecarnival


Way to be supportive of the guy. Those times aren't even bad for boys and it shows there is room for improvement. Go post in any of the other forums on this site where people aren't looking to better themselves, ass.
cenotaph
RE: No College team, what do I do? 2/29/2012 6:31PM - in reply to Sp!kes Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sp!kes wrote:
Next piece of advice: DO NOT RUN A MARATHON YET! Focus on shorter stuff for now. 5ks and 10ks and even a lot of 4x400 relays this spring. Run a marathon in 5 years or more.


Lol


OP, you go to college for school. If you can also get on a good academic school's team then I recommend that. But focus should be on academics first. You don't need a coach or a team. Read everything you can, talk to people, and learn for yourself. Look for local clubs for a training partner or two to run with sometimes.
oh my shit
RE: No College team, what do I do? 2/29/2012 7:45PM - in reply to cenotaph Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Your 800 is horrible compared to you 400m and 3200m.....your 3200 is actually decent
nelsonm
RE: No College team, what do I do? 2/29/2012 7:50PM - in reply to NoCollegeTeam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Become a road whore, though you'll need to improve a lot to make some $$$.

Find a club, put in the miles, and run some workouts.
Santa Anna
RE: No College team, what do I do? 2/29/2012 8:36PM - in reply to Sp!kes Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sp!kes wrote:

First advice: consider attending a school where you can run xc and track. If you ask people who ran for their college teams about their experience, 99% will say it is one of the most memorable things in their lives. Even if your run d3, just run for your school!


I suggest the opposite. My times were a bit faster, decided to go to a D1 school where I knew I wasn't fast enough to even get a tryout. It was my best option financially and academically. Other schools offered tryouts and walk-on spots, but I really had one choice. Ran club for a few years with guys who were still pretty fast, and eventually broke off to train by myself. Very happy with my choice. I don't see how I would have maintained my academics, friends, extracurricular activities and overall happiness.

Search to see if your college has a club, if not think about starting one.
NoCollegeTeam
RE: No College team, what do I do? 2/29/2012 11:28PM - in reply to oh my shit Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

oh my shit wrote:

Your 800 is horrible compared to you 400m and 3200m.....your 3200 is actually decent


Yea, I ran that my first outdoor meet last year, ended up running 2:07.x I don't know how many times but never PR'd again. I was training mostly for the 3200 though. I'm focusing on the 800, hoping to get under 2:00 so we can have a solid relay this year. My 3200 PR was really unexpected. It was from a time trial in XC. I was our number 9 runner but I got 3rd in the time trial, only 2 seconds out of second.
coachkritter
RE: No College team, what do I do? 2/29/2012 11:41PM - in reply to NoCollegeTeam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What state do you live in?
NoCollegeTeam
RE: No College team, what do I do? 2/29/2012 11:43PM - in reply to coachkritter Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Illinois

coachkritter wrote:

What state do you live in?
Flying Tiger
RE: No College team, what do I do? 3/3/2012 7:51PM - in reply to NoCollegeTeam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Enjoy school, have fun running. Find some people to run with occasional and accept the fact the the hard stuff will be on your own. If there is a women's team at your school maybe you could run with them some, and get some hot dates.
VictorE
RE: No College team, what do I do? 3/3/2012 8:01PM - in reply to NoCollegeTeam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If you do go to this school without a men's team either see if they have a club team to be part of or contact the women's coach and see if they'll let you help out with the women's team as a student assistant or a training partner for the top girls.
Seyta
RE: No College team, what do I do? 3/3/2012 8:25PM - in reply to NoCollegeTeam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

NoCollegeTeam wrote:

I am currently a high school senior. The college I am planning on attending in the fall (for various reasons) does not offer Cross Country or Track for men. As I am still interested in continuing running, I was looking for advice/opinions on what I should do. I would consider myself an above average High School runner.
My PR's are:
400m: :55.9r
800m: 2:07.0
1600m: 4:36.0
3200m: 9:58.5
3 miles: 16:28

Obviously I am hoping to improve all of those times (except the 3 mile) this spring. I was considering running a half marathon soon after state for track, and a full marathon in the fall.

Any advice/opinions on training, racing, etc. would be greatly appreciated!


As far as improving the times go, your 800m should free-fall during the spring...

I don't think it's possible to have a 55.9 400 coupled with a 4:36 1600m and somehow manage only a 2:07 800m in between...

To put it into perspective, my Freshman year of high school I had a 54.6 400m - 2:08.00 800m - 4:55 1600m

Of course, you could say that I was slightly more speed-oriented back then, but regardless, your 400/1600 credentials say you can certainly do much better in the 800m
NoCollegeTeam
RE: No College team, what do I do? 3/4/2012 4:52PM - in reply to VictorE Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

VictorE wrote:

If you do go to this school without a men's team either see if they have a club team to be part of or contact the women's coach and see if they'll let you help out with the women's team as a student assistant or a training partner for the top girls.


Thanks, this is a great idea! I actually want to be a HS history teacher and I would like to coach XC/Track as well, so I think this would be a good experience.
no one
RE: No College team, what do I do? 3/4/2012 4:59PM - in reply to NoCollegeTeam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
check shoe stores
BrettFavre4
RE: No College team, what do I do? 3/4/2012 7:21PM - in reply to NoCollegeTeam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
jenglan3
RE: No College team, what do I do? 3/4/2012 7:38PM - in reply to NoCollegeTeam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

NoCollegeTeam wrote:

Illinois[quote]coachkritter wrote:

What state do you live in?
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Are you going to Northern Illinois? If so, they have a very good club team. Excellent sprints and jumps, throws are getting there too. What they really need is distance runners to be the whole package. The other school in Illinois that doesn't have men's track that I can think of is Northwestern. They also have a well established club team, and their distribution of talent is more in the distance and mid-distance events.

Both have been good competition for us (University of Illinois Track Club) this year. If you're not going to one of those two schools, consider starting your own! Northern's club has only been around for a year and a half and they've made impressive progress.
Hydrite
RE: No College team, what do I do? 3/5/2012 2:41PM - in reply to NoCollegeTeam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I second VictorE's post. Especially since you want to be a coach later on.
a journalist
RE: No College team, what do I do? 3/5/2012 4:29PM - in reply to NoCollegeTeam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

NoCollegeTeam wrote:

Thanks, this is a great idea! I actually want to be a HS history teacher and I would like to coach XC/Track as well, so I think this would be a good experience.


You should get more experience as a runner then.
Get coached by others and learn other systems.

Not sure why you'd be locked into one school.

There are schools that would help you with money with those times and you could still achieve your academic goals.