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runnebraska
Fast April/May Marathon 2/26/2012 10:32AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Looking for a PR course sometime in April or May - shooting for a sub 2:40 (after a recent 2:45) - have narrowed the list down to Vermont City, Vancouver, Eugene, or Poconos.

Vancouver has a new course - anyone know if it's fast? No idea on the Poconos - but I hear it's speedy, and Vermont City and Eugene seem like they have good feedback - but have never been to either.

What would your choice be - or is there some race that I am missing?


Thanks - runnebraska
Newo
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/26/2012 11:27AM - in reply to runnebraska Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
avenue of the giants

double out and back

ca state champ marathon

may 6th

good weather, shaded (redwoods)
VF Runner
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/26/2012 11:49AM - in reply to runnebraska Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I chose Pocono's for the fast course. Several friends have done it and say it's a good one. Just make sure you train for some downhill.
nelsonm
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/26/2012 1:17PM - in reply to runnebraska Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why not Boston?
cyhawk
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/26/2012 1:59PM - in reply to runnebraska Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I ran Vermont City once, it is where I first qualified for Boston. It is reasonably fast, but there is one large hill and a few rollers. A steep downhill around mile 18 really hurt me though and instantly reduced my pace around 15-20s per mile for the remainder of the race. Burlington is a pretty cool city as well. I don't know anything about the other races you listed, sorry.
ecin
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/26/2012 2:59PM - in reply to nelsonm Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

nelsonm wrote:

Why not Boston?


This would make more sense to me too.
VF Runner
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/26/2012 3:10PM - in reply to ecin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

ecin wrote:

[quote]nelsonm wrote:

Why not Boston?


This would make more sense to me too.[/quote]

Only if he is thinking next year at this point. I'm assuming he's looking for this April/May.
curiousJ
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/26/2012 3:33PM - in reply to VF Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
looking at your name I'd recommend Lincoln. Then I would remember that the race directors are some of the worst people I have met in my life, then there is the rest of the State not far behind. corn f*ckers
SLOWinNORCAL
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/26/2012 5:10PM - in reply to Newo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
theave.org is a good course. Race day temps typically start in the high 40s and finish in the high 60s. Logistics are good.

the first out has a gain of about 250' elevation, and then back you lose that same elevation. The second out and back is really gentle setting up a good finish (as long as you race the front half well).

The only problem with the course is you would most likely be running on your own. Less than ten runners usually finish in the 2:30-2:45 time slow.
runnebraska
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/26/2012 9:54PM - in reply to runnebraska Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Thanks for the feedback! You are correct, I am from outside of Lincoln, so I don't really want to run the same roads that I am always running on training routes. Hadn't considered The Ave - will def look into it.

One more to throw out - any good vibes from either Madison or Cleveland?

Was hoping that I would hear more love for Poconos!

~ runnebraska
the clarifier
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/26/2012 11:54PM - in reply to runnebraska Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You mentioned Eugene.

It's a potentially fast course (mostly flat).

Unfortunately, a significant portion of it is a concrete bike path. Might hurt afterwards.

Several good microbrew options post-race.
Precious Roy
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/27/2012 4:04AM - in reply to the clarifier Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ottawa is probably the fastest. Flat course, strong field and generally good weather. Vermont city can be fast if you run the hills easy you will be rewarded with a fast last few miles on a slightly downhill bike path on the lake. Cleveland is not very fast, does not have a strong field and can be windy. Know nothing about Poconos or Madison. I think Green Bay has a faster course if you are looking at Wisconsin.
Toledo
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/27/2012 10:11AM - in reply to runnebraska Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Toledo Glass City
PLm
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/27/2012 10:23AM - in reply to runnebraska Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Um, ever heard of the Pine Line Marathon in WI?

http://www.halfmarathonclub.com/Wisconsin_Half_Marathon_Races.html
joho
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/27/2012 10:43AM - in reply to PLm Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Anyone here ever run the Oklahoma City Memorial Marathon? I would think that it is flat at least.
not bilingual
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/27/2012 1:18PM - in reply to runnebraska Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
bayshore
mr pickers
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/27/2012 3:18PM - in reply to not bilingual Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
what about gansett?
robocop
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/28/2012 10:30AM - in reply to runnebraska Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

runnebraska wrote:

Looking for a PR course sometime in April or May - shooting for a sub 2:40 (after a recent 2:45) - have narrowed the list down to Vermont City, Vancouver, Eugene, or Poconos.

Vancouver has a new course - anyone know if it's fast? No idea on the Poconos - but I hear it's speedy, and Vermont City and Eugene seem like they have good feedback - but have never been to either.

What would your choice be - or is there some race that I am missing?


Thanks - runnebraska




Poconos is going to give you the best chance at 2:40 out of that group.
joho
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/28/2012 10:59AM - in reply to robocop Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

robocop wrote:

[quote]runnebraska wrote:

Looking for a PR course sometime in April or May - shooting for a sub 2:40 (after a recent 2:45) - have narrowed the list down to Vermont City, Vancouver, Eugene, or Poconos.

Vancouver has a new course - anyone know if it's fast? No idea on the Poconos - but I hear it's speedy, and Vermont City and Eugene seem like they have good feedback - but have never been to either.

What would your choice be - or is there some race that I am missing?


Thanks - runnebraska




Poconos is going to give you the best chance at 2:40 out of that group.[/quote]


I just checked out the Poconos website. Is the course as downhill as it appears on the elevation chart?

http://www.poconomarathon.org/courseinfo.html
scottatosu
RE: Fast April/May Marathon 2/28/2012 11:05AM - in reply to runnebraska Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Wait until June 2nd, then run Newport in Oregon. It's very flat and fast.
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