| nuetral runner |
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I have been warned to stay away from the pegs, but want something cheaper than the vomeros, and i want a nike shoe if possible. Are the zoom elites for neutral runners? |
| Huh? |
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There is no such thing as a shoe for pronators. That's 90's era marketing dogma that's being fazed out. |
| Hot, Hard Facts |
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What's wrong with the Pegasus? I have the current model and I love 'em. |
| Loser |
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Loser. It's overpronators. |
| another shoe guy |
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Really? I know a whole bunch of runners who will be very surprised to find the the bio-mechanics of their feet and knees are being phased out. |
| yet another shoe guy |
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And who exactly was it that told that bunch of runners about their bio-mechanics? |
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Biomechanics are not being phased out; old notions of shoe technology are. Look, you can get mad all you want but I'm just telling you. It's marketing. |
| nuetral runner |
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ok so..should i try the zoom elites? i don't really want to run in a shoe w a big medial post or high density foam in that area or whatever, don't want to mess with what has been working for me. |
| Scottie p |
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It will be neutral, with a lower platform. It would be good for a vomero wearer. |
| ssr |
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Correct in that it will be neutral (no medial post) and lower (20:11). The ride will be quite a bit firmer than Vomero however and similar to it's predecessor from several years ago; Zoom Elite IV. If you loved the Zoom Elite prior to it's Lunar reincarnation, you will love the Zoom Elite V as fit and ride are almost identical (without the medial post). |
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Learn to define. Pronation is when the foot rolls excessively. Neutral is self explanatory. Supination is when the foot doesn't roll enough. Shoe companies market over pronation because saying supination is one more thing to explain to consumers |
| MagnumRunner |
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I've heard the new Zoom Elites have a high arch? Is this true, and if so, is it part of the midsole or is it mostly in the insole? I have relatively flat feet, but run well in neutral shoes and am looking for a new neutral shoe, approx. 10.5oz or under. I want something slightly on the firm side, but by no means rock hard. I still want some cushion. The Zoom Elite looks perfect for every criteria except I get really annoyed when I can feel a too-high arch pressing on the bottom of my feet. Experiences? |
| Zoom Eliter |
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They do have an interesting arch. It is both high and long. I would recommend trying them on before buying for sure |
| midwesta |
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I might have to go ahead and disagree with this. Pronation is just the natural rolling of the foot. Overpronation is when the foot rolls excessively. |
| altoroad |
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I have very flat feet, and recently tried on a pair of Zoom Elite. I couldn't get past the lumpy arch, and so stuck with the Mizuno Wave Rider 15. |
| hoss |
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Learn to define. Pronation is when the foot rolls excessively. Neutral is self explanatory. Supination is when the foot doesn't roll enough. No, pronation and supination are triplanar movements that occur in joints in the hindfoot and forefoot and are necessary for every person's foot to accept weight. Though, to be honest, their definitions are arguable in the lit. Pronation is not excessive inward rolling. Everyone should pronate and supinate to some degree. We use the same terminology to describe forearm movements. The forearm pronates and supinates (though not in the same way as the foot). It would be incorrect to say you are a forearm pronator or supinator (you can only keep your palm "excessively" down or up). "Shoes for pronators, or "overpronators" is a term that is overused, incorrect, and over marketed. But to answer the original question, the new Elite is marketed as a neutral shoe, and is not posted. Even with a firmer cushion than the Peg or Vomero, it should not bother you if you have been in neutral running shoes in the past. |
| euprha |
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Can we get someone from nike to confirm it's 20-11 please? |
| nikeman |
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The New Zoom Elites are quite a bit different than the Zoom Elite 4. The Zoom Elite 4 had a footbridge/dual density midsole section that gave it added stability. The new Zoom Elite does not. The new Zoom Elite is also lighter by about .4 ounces. I'd also venture to say that the old Zoom Elite 4 had better cushioning,especially in the forefoot. The new counterpart offers a much firmer ride,in my opinion. |