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MaryMary
MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 2:01PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Mary Cain as a freshman has already established herself as a legend in high school distance running. The amount of talent she possess is mind boggling, not since Mary Decker have we seen this kind of talent in such a young female.

2:03.7 relay leg
4:17 1500m defeating Aisling Cuffe
and certainly could run sub 10 in 3200m

amazing range and one in a generation type athlete just like Mary Decker.
big race coming up
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 2:12PM - in reply to MaryMary Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

MaryMary wrote:

and certainly could run sub 10 in 3200m


What has she run for 3200m so far?

Let's see how she does in the next 45 minutes.
Marrow2000
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 2:21PM - in reply to MaryMary Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
'certainly could run sub 10' is not the same as running sub 10.

The girl has a LOT of potential. Let's let her run some of it before we start with the comparisons.
MaryMary
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 2:39PM - in reply to Marrow2000 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Comparisons are made all the time all over sports so stop trying to act intelligent. Mary Cain could definitely run this year 2:02 800m, 4:39 mile, and at least 9:56 3200m in paced runs or if she had concentrated on any one event.

Have a freshman distance runner ever won Gatorade Athlete of the Year?
UMMMM
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 2:41PM - in reply to MaryMary Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
She won't get it over cuffe.



MaryMary wrote:

Comparisons are made all the time all over sports so stop trying to act intelligent. Mary Cain could definitely run this year 2:02 800m, 4:39 mile, and at least 9:56 3200m in paced runs or if she had concentrated on any one event.

Have a freshman distance runner ever won Gatorade Athlete of the Year?
J.R.
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 2:44PM - in reply to UMMMM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Mary Cain is beating Cuffe quite easily.
:|}
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 2:53PM - in reply to MaryMary Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't think she could run sub 10. Her best in a 3000 is 9:28. She doesn't have huge endurance either as when compared to Cuffe. At XC States, Cuffe 17:19.6 while Cain got 18:42.7. While Cain may have tremendous speed, I don't think she has the endurance to get the sub-10.
Marrow2000
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 3:05PM - in reply to MaryMary Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

MaryMary wrote:

Comparisons are made all the time all over sports so stop trying to act intelligent. Mary Cain could definitely run this year 2:02 800m, 4:39 mile, and at least 9:56 3200m in paced runs or if she had concentrated on any one event.

Have a freshman distance runner ever won Gatorade Athlete of the Year?


"could" in your mind, but she hasn't.

Let the girl show us what she's got without so much speculation. She's run a HANDFUL of races this year.
update
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 3:17PM - in reply to big race coming up Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

big race coming up wrote:
What has she run for 3200m so far?

Let's see how she does in the next 45 minutes.


Has she run it yet? Results?
greenliner1
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 3:20PM - in reply to MaryMary Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Mary Cain is incredibly impressive, and her versatility is just one of her attributes.In the 1500 she shows her speed which is truly unprecedented by a female distance runner, creating a 50m gap in less than 200m. raw speed like this shows a lot of potentiall:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drk4emkXC3A
wrong video
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 3:31PM - in reply to greenliner1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
that just shows a couple of bums
Crimea River
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 3:34PM - in reply to MaryMary Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
She has run the 1500 equivalent of 4:37 (full) already in a championship race, so more like 4:35 seems reasonable in a "paced" i.e. pro race.



MaryMary wrote:

Comparisons are made all the time all over sports so stop trying to act intelligent. Mary Cain could definitely run this year 2:02 800m, 4:39 mile, and at least 9:56 3200m in paced runs or if she had concentrated on any one event.

Have a freshman distance runner ever won Gatorade Athlete of the Year?
oh great
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 3:36PM - in reply to greenliner1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

greenliner1 wrote:

Mary Cain is incredibly impressive, and her versatility is just one of her attributes.In the 1500 she shows her speed which is truly unprecedented by a female distance runner, creating a 50m gap in less than 200m. raw speed like this shows a lot of potentiall:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drk4emkXC3A


Yuck. She acts like a black dude. No thanks.
Marcus Caine
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 3:44PM - in reply to oh great Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

oh great wrote:

Yuck. She acts like a black dude. No thanks.


eys gonna kicke ur atz
MaryMary
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 3:48PM - in reply to oh great Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
greenliner and oh great

Stop posting a NBA link that has nothing to do with Mary Cain or track and field!


If she goes for time I think she could post the first sub 4:40 mile by a freshman female today.
girl's 1 mile race
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 3:56PM - in reply to update Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

update wrote:

Has she run it yet? Results?


The race is at 6:10 pm.

http://www.facebook.com/newbalancenationals
whirledpeas
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 4:04PM - in reply to MaryMary Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
if hormones don't turn her into a big butt, she'll be great.
lease
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 4:13PM - in reply to whirledpeas Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It's difficult, and perhaps unfair, to try to predict future greatness for any freshman. Yes, Decker was phenomenal at 14 (including beating the previous year's OG silver medalist), and went on to be a world-beater (literally); but there've been plenty of frosh phenoms since then, and only a few have become national class later on. In contrast to boys, who almost all become faster with physical maturity, it's hard to predict how (or how much) a 14-year-old girl will change.

Better, I think, just to give the runner her due *now*--and wish her the best in the remaining races (including today's) in her amazing season.



PS Go, New York!
more great stuff
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 4:24PM - in reply to J.R. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

J.R. wrote:

Mary Cain is beating Cuffe quite easily.


Im not hating on Cain, I am a fan, but she is hardly "beating Cuffe quite easily". Clearly they have different specialties. Cuffe crushes her at XC, and 3k/3200 and would in a 5k on the track. Cain would beat her in a 400 and 800. They are close in the 1500/Mile. Cain has the upper hand, but I dont think Cain would beat her more that 70% of the time at that distance. Less than 2 seconds at states separated them when Cuffe ran a hard 9:16 3k the night before.
Newport Richie
RE: MARY CAIN is easily the greatest running prodigy in the US since Mary Decker Slaney 6/18/2011 4:28PM - in reply to :|} Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

:|} wrote:
At XC States, Cuffe 17:19.6 while Cain got 18:42.7.


Yes, and when Bob Kennedy became the first American to break 13:00 for 5,000, Rupp probably couldn't break seven minutes for a single mile.

You do realize that high-school cross-country in New York State was over about seven months ago and that freshmen runners can improve a great deal in seven months, right?
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