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jabberwok
sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 8:07AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sanya richards-ross tweeted that she is going to run an 800m this weekend at the MJ classic in Waco. what do you predict she'll run?

She has run under 50 seconds in the quarter something like 60 times, but she never runs the 8, so I'm going to say she goes 2:06.35
Mr. Obvious
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 8:14AM - in reply to jabberwok Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2:04.22
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RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 8:20AM - in reply to Mr. Obvious Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
1:59 and the speculation starts.
The Stache
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 8:24AM - in reply to jabberwok Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Very interesting. I'll predict nothing below a 2:04. Not that I don't think she CAN do it, but that she's just in more of a "base" training mode right now and is just racing something longer than usual. Obviously Sanya finishes very strong in 400s that she races, so it is quite possible she has good 800 ability. But then, she's a world class 200 runner, too, sooooooo more likely that her 800 ability is limited and she's just overdistance racing early in the season here.
kipketer
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 8:49AM - in reply to jabberwok Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
This is really interesting. You have to wonder why she is doing it. Sanya has run 10.97, 22.17, and 48.70. Why run the 800 instead of the 100 or the 200?

I love the 800 though so I am all for it and I am going to imagine that the Hart training has put her in shape to run a great time. She is one of the worlds great female sprinters. World class over 3 distances. If she goes into the race with a great attitude and wants to do well she will.
place yer bets
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 8:50AM - in reply to jabberwok Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Even taking into account the inevitable wind, I'm calling 2:03.63. YHIHF.
26mi235
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 8:50AM - in reply to jabberwok Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
She has a sub-11 100, so her optimal range is almost certainly not beyond 400m and is probably below 400m (she has faded relative to others who are also doing the standard slowdown in several (all?) of her loses. Also, this is early season and she probably would only be running 50.5 for 400m right now.

2:05 or higher; 1:59 is not up to her '400 level' by the points charts but this is not her event.
addf
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 8:52AM - in reply to 26mi235 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If she is training for it, 2:04. If not, 2:08.
The Stache
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 9:03AM - in reply to 26mi235 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
But 26, while she has faded in her losses, look at what she does in her wins! She closes hard and leaves everybody looking like they're going backward. Her first 200 is probably faster than her 2nd 200 (like pretty much everyone else in the world) but her 2nd 200 is very very strong, just like all Hart-trained athletes.

Remembering back to reading a Hart article a couple years ago, their early season training consists of repeat 200s on Mon, and an either Wed or Thur they're running 800s. He gives them a time goal for the first 400, and then they hang on for the last 400 as best they can. Over the course of the season, those 800s become 700, 600, 500, 450. Sanya's got some endurance there.
runtodream
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 9:17AM - in reply to The Stache Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2:09.

The 800m never goes well stepping up for the first time if you don't specifically train for it.
aallsssa
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 9:21AM - in reply to The Stache Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
what about the miles though?
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RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 9:22AM - in reply to runtodream Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
she ran 2:10 in HS on relay splits. race plan is the only issue. if she sets it up right she should run 2:03 without too much difficulty. Clyde Hart training is more endurance based than speed based. if he practices what he preaches, then she was running 1ks all fall.
rojo
co-founder
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 9:26AM - in reply to aallsssa Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Wow. This is a race for the ages in my mind. I've always wondered what would Michael Johnson run for 800 or what would Jeremy Wariner run for 800.

It seems so easy to think, "well they'd cruise through 400 in 50 and ....."


But my mentor John Kellogg went to Baylor and he says that people who assume they would be near the world record are way, way off as he asked people down there what they'd run and I think the answer was barely under 1:50.

But this race should help answer the ultimate what if.

Im serious when I say that I'm fascinated by this. I thought about even trying to raise like $50,000 to get a Wariner or Usain Bolt to run an 800 at the end of the season.
26mi235
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 9:34AM - in reply to The Stache Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

The Stache wrote:

But 26, while she has faded in her losses, look at what she does in her wins! She closes hard and leaves everybody looking like they're going backward. Her first 200 is probably faster than her 2nd 200 (like pretty much everyone else in the world) but her 2nd 200 is very very strong, just like all Hart-trained athletes.

Remembering back to reading a Hart article a couple years ago, their early season training consists of repeat 200s on Mon, and an either Wed or Thur they're running 800s. He gives them a time goal for the first 400, and then they hang on for the last 400 as best they can. Over the course of the season, those 800s become 700, 600, 500, 450. Sanya's got some endurance there.


You are right, but she has so few losses that those cases are more notable; she has won both ways but really only lost with the fade, I think (I could be wrong, but this is my memory on this). If you have more, please comment further.
ukathleticscoach
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 9:40AM - in reply to jabberwok Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Where are all the people who reckoned Wariner could run 1:43

They have all gone quiet now a sprinter is actually doing the 800m
5er
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 9:48AM - in reply to jabberwok Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2:09
haha, YO (super serial)
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 9:54AM - in reply to ukathleticscoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Where are all the people who reckoned Wariner could run 1:43

They have all gone quiet now a sprinter is actually doing the 800m


Waiting for the results.
C/M Runner
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 9:56AM - in reply to 5er Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2:08 through 2:10 range.
SmalltimeT
RE: sanya richards running 800 this weekend - predictions? 4/14/2010 10:15AM - in reply to C/M Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
A conservative and fairly accurate prediction would be in the 2:03-2:06 range, I think much slower than a 2:06 would be deemed a poor performance. Best case scenario I think 2:01ish. A 50 second 400 guy moving up to the 8 for the first time usually runs close to 2 flat give or take 2 seconds and men have better endurance. This is a race for the ages though as we distance runners always want to know how sprinters would fair moving up.
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