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douglas burke
report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 12:25AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
the new york times reports olympic marathon champion sammy wanjiru (along with evans cheruiyiot and patrick ivuti)will run the chicago marathon this october.

the ny times also says ryan hall will be running the nyc marathon this november, a formal announcement will be made later this week.
Vernacularitis
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 12:37AM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
man I wanted to see Wanjiru run in Berlin with Geb, Duncan Kibet, and everyone else.

Guess I'll put it out there: did Haile force the Berlin organizers to shut out Wanjiru? Was there not enough money to have both of them?

Either way, I bet Sammy will get compensated well for running Chicago.
Off the Grid
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 12:40AM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hall: Boston, then NYC.....CASHING IN!
nice...run the joke courses in the US now before 2011/12/13....make a little coin while the getting is good!
Picayune
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 1:15AM - in reply to Off the Grid Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The "joke courses?" What the heck is that supposed to mean?
Off the Grid
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 1:27AM - in reply to Picayune Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
NYC and Boston are relic courses from the days when the marathon was the realm of the freak. Hilly, "scenic", "historic" etc.

Who cares?

Chicago is the only world class marathon course in North America. It is comparable to European and Japanese marathons, because the organizers make every attempt to make the course FAST.
Truthiness
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 2:22AM - in reply to Off the Grid Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Off the Grid wrote:

Hall: Boston, then NYC.....CASHING IN!
nice...run the joke courses in the US now before 2011/12/13....make a little coin while the getting is good!



Yes...cash.
Off the Grid
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 2:37AM - in reply to Truthiness Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You can hear Ryan on the phone w/ his agent:
"Jerry! I need to see the KWAN!!!!!!"
Picayune
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 2:54AM - in reply to Off the Grid Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So the only "world class" courses are ones that are flat as a pancake? What an odd notion.
jingle bowels
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 3:02AM - in reply to Picayune Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
if this is true this is a great shame, Geb is never going to race a competitive marathon again, and he cannot go down as the best marathoner in history because of this. On the track he was without peer, on the roads he is proving to be somewhat of a competition avoider.
Brett in Tokyo
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 4:10AM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
A friend at one of Wanjiru's sponsors told me a few weeks ago he would probably be running Chicago. This sponsor is also now one of Chicago's main sponsors but is not one of Berlin's. Put two and two together and you'll come up with a lot of money. The marathon Wanjiru is looking at after Chicago is much, much more surprising.
Brett in Tokyo
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 4:18AM - in reply to Brett in Tokyo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Actually, come to think of it, if you match up these three sets I think you find the answer:

Geb, Wanjiru, Hall
Berlin, Chicago, New York
Adidas, Nike, Asics
Off the Grid
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 5:19AM - in reply to Picayune Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Picayune wrote:

So the only "world class" courses are ones that are flat as a pancake? What an odd notion.


Newsflash....We've landed on the MOON!
need an edge
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 5:29AM - in reply to Off the Grid Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why does New York NEVER get the best? Wanjiru and Geb are both capable of setting WR. Hall can't win Boston.

Let me guess, New York will be bringing in 40 year old Tergat or 2:15 Rammala and a list of Americans and call it a world class race.
on the runs
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 6:27AM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
They wanted Ritz, too, and play up the national championship. Don't know if his plans have changed.
ioipiip
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 6:34AM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
ryan hall is an absolute idiot to not pursue running in the chicago marathon.

its okay, he'll lose to another african just like meb and ritz over the past 5 years at new york.
Tony Soprano
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 6:43AM - in reply to ioipiip Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

ioipiip wrote:

ryan hall is an absolute idiot.



Hmmm, oh yeah?

Follow up with your PB in the 26.2er and how you've contributed to running.
Motorbreath
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 6:43AM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
A link to the NY Times story for those interested in more info:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/sports/21marathon.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=marathon&st=cse
Corrector of Quotes
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 7:26AM - in reply to ioipiip Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Off the Grid wrote:

NYC and Boston are relic courses from the days when the marathon was the realm of the freak. Hills, wah, wah, wah.

Who cares?

Chicago is the only Rupp certified marathon course in North America.



need an edge wrote:

Why does New York NEVER get the best? Except for Lel and Radcliffe who are both capable of setting WR. Actually Radcliffe already has the world record. Oh wait, I'm a clueless moron.



ioipiip wrote:

ryan hall is an absolute idiot to not pursue running in the chicago marathon.

its okay, he'll lose to another african just like meb and ritz over the past 5 years at new york instead of going to Chicago and crushing Wanijiru. Oh wait, like that's going to happen.
haha, YO
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 7:28AM - in reply to Tony Soprano Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Tony Soprano wrote:

[quote]ioipiip wrote:

ryan hall is an absolute idiot.



Hmmm, oh yeah?

Follow up with your PB in the 26.2er and how you've contributed to running.[/quote]

I agree. Ryan has run a marathon in NY in a dominating fashion but not that great a time. He needs to go to Chicago and mix it up with THE BEST in the world and give himself a realistic chance to break 2:06 on American soil. That isn't happening at NY. Good luck to Ryan, I hope he runs well in NY but it would have been so much better to see him tear up Chi town.
on the runs
RE: report wanjiru to run chicago marathon, ryan hall to run nyc marathon. 7/21/2009 7:46AM - in reply to ioipiip Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
No, you're an absolute idiot.

First, how much money do you think Carey has? Limitless cash? Wanjiru is taking up a huge part of his budget, and no one has London's money except London.

Next, what about sponsor considerations? By Wanjiru running Chicago and Hall running New York, they're fulfilling an obligation in their contract to their sponsors, and still getting paid very good appearance fees.

You still look at track and road racing with amateur eyes, and not as the business it is for these guys. If you're just running for pride, sure, take a swing at the top guy every time. But Hall is running to pay his mortgage and put money away for his post racing days. It's that simple.


ioipiip wrote:

ryan hall is an absolute idiot to not pursue running in the chicago marathon.

its okay, he'll lose to another african just like meb and ritz over the past 5 years at new york.
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