krike
exampes of people who did daily (sub) threshold training? 5/26/2008 7:19AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hey i was rereading marius bakken's site. And there where some lines from evertson about how the kenyans he observed trained...

Like 4 days of continous AT runs (well actually 3 - 4 mmol and 20 - 25 bpm under maximal heart rate where probably the 20 below is anaerobic threshold) and a couple of days of intervals right below anaerobic threshold and one day of intervals at 5 mmol (can we say 15 km pace?).

All the other running was either easy or somewhat harder but still quite below AT.

Are there examples of people that used such systems with success?
Huhh?
RE: exampes of people who did daily (sub) threshold training? 5/26/2008 4:02PM - in reply to krike Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What does all this mean? When i run, all i worry about is running not how many bpm or mri or when im gonna have kfc, whoo cares, just run.
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RE: exampes of people who did daily (sub) threshold training? 5/26/2008 11:22PM - in reply to krike Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

krike wrote:

Are there examples of people that used such systems with success?


El G, the british 80s mid distance runners.
well
RE: exampes of people who did daily (sub) threshold training? 5/27/2008 9:33AM - in reply to Huhh? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Huhh? wrote:

What does all this mean? When i run, all i worry about is running not how many bpm or mri or when im gonna have kfc, whoo cares, just run.



what are your prs and age
idiot alert
RE: exampes of people who did daily (sub) threshold training? 5/27/2008 11:56AM - in reply to Huhh? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Huhh? wrote:

What does all this mean? When i run, all i worry about is running not how many bpm or mri or when im gonna have kfc, whoo cares, just run.


Yeah, I guess all world class runners "just run"...
lease
RE: exampes of people who did daily (sub) threshold training? 5/27/2008 12:35PM - in reply to krike Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
There was a guy a few/several years back who won the USATF xc race (IIRC) and who did almost all of his training around 8:00/mile. I remember reading the stories, but I'm completely blanking on his name.

Different things work for different people.
the dude with the funny hat
RE: exampes of people who did daily (sub) threshold training? 5/27/2008 1:26PM - in reply to lease Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'm going to repeat a comment I made on another thread: Sub-threshold training is SO much easier on the body when you are at altitude. You can really work your heart and lungs hard without hardly any damage at all to the legs. So all you need afterwards is a short easy evening run, and by the next morning you're ready to run sub-threshold again.

But at sea level it's much much harder. When you run sub-threshold pace, your body will remind you of it the next day, and sometimes even the day after that.

So if you want examples of people who did sub-threshold training, look at the logs of famous Africans; look at the ones on Bakken's website, at least for starters.

If you want examples of sea-level-dwellers who do daily sub-threshold training, however, I think you'll be hard-pressed to find them. Lots of guys will run 6:00s on all their runs, but not many of them are up for sub-5:00s every day.
Tech Consumer
RE: exampes of people who did daily (sub) threshold training? 5/27/2008 3:08PM - in reply to lease Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Brad...can't remember his last name. He was also a 4 flat or sub-4 guys as well.
Tech Consumer
RE: exampes of people who did daily (sub) threshold training? 5/27/2008 3:09PM - in reply to lease Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Brad...can't remember his last name. He was also a 4 flat or sub-4 guys as well. Was with Team New Balance and the NYAC
U.N.O.
RE: exampes of people who did daily (sub) threshold training? 3/11/2012 11:48PM - in reply to the dude with the funny hat Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

the dude with the funny hat wrote:
Sub-threshold training is SO much easier on the body when you are at altitude.

But at sea level it's much much harder. When you run sub-threshold pace, your body will remind you of it the next day, and sometimes even the day after that.



No... It doesn´t matter are yoy at altitude or not. Kenyans run very the pace at altitude that they run at sea level. But you will notice better at altitude if you´re going a bit above the threshold (according to Marius Bakken). No problem to use short blocks of daily sub-threshold runs at sea level, as I´ve experienced. You just have to use right intensity and volume per session
well, yeah
RE: exampes of people who did daily (sub) threshold training? 3/12/2012 12:04AM - in reply to krike Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

krike wrote:

Hey i was rereading marius bakken's site. And there where some lines from evertson about how the kenyans he observed trained...



Are there examples of people that used such systems with success?


What, you mean like those Kenyans??

Or are you only talking about Western runners?
U.N.O.
RE: exampes of people who did daily (sub) threshold training? 3/12/2012 12:39AM - in reply to krike Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
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