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hillrunner8
loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 3:01PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
so this has happened several times. I'll be running fine, then as I pick up the pace a little my right leg starts to tighten up, then it gradually gets to the point where I feel like I've lost coordination in that leg, has this happened to anyone? Any suggestions?
ohyeah
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 3:05PM - in reply to hillrunner8 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
this has been a nightmare, still trying to figure it out.
track dude
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 3:06PM - in reply to hillrunner8 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Story of my life the past 8 months. I'm still searching for answers.
spokompton
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 3:12PM - in reply to hillrunner8 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

hillrunner8 wrote:

so this has happened several times. I'll be running fine, then as I pick up the pace a little my right leg starts to tighten up, then it gradually gets to the point where I feel like I've lost coordination in that leg, has this happened to anyone? Any suggestions?



This happens to me occassionally as well. I am approaching a solid year of around 100 mpw and it happens much less frequently.

I think it is merely muscle fatigue, which results in spasms and cramps, and then the feeling of lost control. When I first switched to running in H-Streets full time it would happen about an hour into my daily morning long run, especially if I started picking up the pace.

Fast forward many months later and I can usually do a progression run, down to marathon pace, for about 100-110 minutes before this starts happening.

Many times when this happens I do not feel aerobically tired, which makes it more frustrating. It is simply your leg muscles giving out before your breathing does. That's my best guess anyway.

I'm curious to other's experience with this.
1 after 909
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 3:25PM - in reply to hillrunner8 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
possible sciatica or pinched nerve issues
track dude
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 3:29PM - in reply to hillrunner8 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Does it matter what surface you run on? For me it has everything to do with the surface and pace. I can run on grass or rolling hills all day long. Its the repetitive and paved surface that is the problem. If the pavement is flat or on a gradual incline or decline, I will have a problem. On a treadmill at 0% incline, its a big problem. If I crank it up to 2% incline, it will not happen.

After 8 months, I've learned exactly what I can and cannot handle. I do all my workouts and long runs on trails. Unfortunately, racing on roads is out of the question until I get it resolved.

I've been to so many specialists in my area and I have yet to see an improvement. Its frustrating, but I will keep trying until I figure out how to fix it.
spokompton
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 3:38PM - in reply to track dude Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You sound exactly like me. I too can push the pace fairly hard for over 2 hours on trails, even hard packed. But when I try to do the same length run on primarily asphalt and pavement, the problems arise much sooner.
brc1355
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 3:39PM - in reply to track dude Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
yeah, it's fine on hills and uneven terrain, but on flat surfaces (even soft ones) it bothers me. It's a problem in track workouts and on the treadmill. I did go see a physical therapist and was reccomended to do balencing excercises that strenthened my IT band in addition to a lot of stretching, but I am still having problems.
ape
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 3:42PM - in reply to spokompton Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
nerve problems?

my leg didn't work for 4 months, had to completely rest it, and fortunately it functions now.
sdesde
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 3:43PM - in reply to brc1355 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
go to a chiro..
brc1355
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 3:47PM - in reply to sdesde Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

sdesde wrote:

go to a chiro..

did it work for you? I've been going to a chiropractor for a while and he has yet to fix the problem.
track dude
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 3:53PM - in reply to brc1355 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I've been to a PT, orthopedist (big mistake), phsyiatrist, two chiros (both skilled in ART and highly experienced with runners) and have had no improvements. The chiro that I'm seeing now suggested that I travel to Colorado to see Mike Leahy who developed ART. I will probably end up doing this at some point.

I took 3-4 weeks off and my symptoms were exactly the same as before. It also doesn't matter how well rested or how fatigued I am.
my experience
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 4:29PM - in reply to brc1355 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Stretch your IT band, hams, quads, and hip flexors. Strengthen your glutes by doing "Buns of Steel" type expercises.

After suffering with this problem for 3 to 4 years, I started doing the above and slowly things are progressing.
I am not fully back to normal, but I am seeing results.
Be patient and persistent.
Ask a doc
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 5:37PM - in reply to hillrunner8 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ask about multiple sclerosis
mikeg
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 6:40PM - in reply to Ask a doc Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
this is exactly what I have...usually does better when I stay on top of gluteus medius stuff. Always on pavement staright flat roads.
track dude
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 6:45PM - in reply to mikeg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Do any of you with this problem notice anything different when you walk? For the exact amount of time that I have had this problem, my injured leg feels a bit weak when I walk slowly. At normal or fast pace, I don't notice it.
Mike Bastian
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 9:14PM - in reply to track dude Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Not to scare anyone but I had different sensations in one leg with occasional weakness and foot drop. It took 14 years and many different specialists to diagnois. I could run 25:43(5 m.)1 week and then DNF the next as my legs would'nt work and I'd find myself DL. My H.S. coaches and college coaches must have thought I was a head case as I talked about tingling sensations and my leg not wanting to lift. Through it all I could get up to 6 weeks straight of 100+ miles before things would act up.I stopped talkin about it cus I did'nt want to be the malingerer on the team. I hope its not for you, but for me it was M.S. and nobody checked for it because of how well I was most of the time.

track dude wrote:

Do any of you with this problem notice anything different when you walk? For the exact amount of time that I have had this problem, my injured leg feels a bit weak when I walk slowly. At normal or fast pace, I don't notice it.
ohyeah
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 10:04PM - in reply to track dude Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
he chiro that I'm seeing now suggested that I travel to Colorado to see Mike Leahy who developed ART


DO NOT DO THIS! Also do not believe any Chiro's for this.

This is was one of 100's of people I have seen for this, and he is way down at the buttom on my list of people who have helped. You might want to leave a e-mail address I can contact you at. I can tell you what not to do, and a little of what to do.
pronator
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 10:05PM - in reply to ohyeah Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Have any of you had any other problems that could be related?
hillrunner8
RE: loss of coordination in leg 11/21/2006 11:10PM - in reply to pronator Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

pronator wrote:

Have any of you had any other problems that could be related?

When the problems started, I also found that I was anemic, but I don't know how the two are related.
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